Parking at Promenade, Whole Foods, Schucks and Others Measured, Compared
According to a professional lot striper, most Maplewood-Brentwood parking spots are under-sized.
A Patch article last week about an addition to the Brentwood Promenade, which would add retail space while reducing parking drew comments about crowded parking conditions.
Some unscientific research (a tape measure and a couple hours) showed that the Promenade does have some of the smallest parking spots in the area. It also has many average-sized spots.
A single data-taker with a tape measure on a windy day aren't ideal conditions for accuracy. The measurements below are in inches, give or take a half. Only parking spot widths were measured.
Brentwood Assistant City Administrator/Director of Planning & Development Ellen Rottjakob said parking stalls are measured from the center of each line, not from the inside edges, as was done initially. Measuring from inside to inside subtracts 4 inches from the true measurement.
The chart below has been amended to reflect that. Four inches were added to each number.
The selection was as random as possible, but only a very small sample of each lot was measured. When I'd find one far from the norm, I'd measure spots nearby.
I happened to run into a painting crew from Bob Otto Striping Services at Schnucks, and Bob Otto Jr. told me the standard width is nine feet, which is 108 inches. He said that's often fudged, depending on available space.
Disclaimers out of the way, I'll go out on a limb to say I found the parking lot with the biggest variations was the Promenade and the lot with the consistently largest spots was Walmart.
Rottjakob also said the proper way to make the measurement is to take the entire length of one parking row and then divide by the number of stalls to find the average width. For example, 109 feet with 12 stalls is 9 feet each.
Parking spot widths in area parking lots, measured in inches.
|
Aldi (Maplewood) |
107 |
| Best Buy (Brentwood) | 105-107 |
| Brentwood Rec. Center | 106 |
| Container Store (Brentwood Square) | 108 |
| Dierbergs (Brentwood Pointe) |
107-110 |
| Dobbs (Promenade) | 107 |
| Five Guys Burgers (Galleria) | 107 |
| Nordstrom (Galleria) | 103-107 |
| Schnucks (Brentwood) | 107 |
| PetSmart-Golf Galaxy (Promenade) |
94-96 |
| Shop n Save | 106-107 |
| St. Louis Bread Co. | 107 |
| Target (Promenade) | 107-110 |
| Trader Joe's (Promenade) | 93-107 |
| Walmart (Maplewood Commons) | 113 |
| Whole Foods (Brentwood Square) | 107 |
| World Market (Promenade) | 105 |
Also in Patch:
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ALDI
7725 Manchester Rd, Maplewood, MO -
Best Buy
8300 Eager Rd, Saint Louis, MO -
Brentwood Recreation Complex
2505 S Brentwood Blvd, Brentwood, MO -
The Container Store
1769 S Brentwood Blvd, Saint Louis, MO -
Dierbergs
I 170 S & Eager Rd, Saint Louis, MO -
Dobbs Tire & Auto Center
99 Brentwood Promenade Ct, Brentwood, MO
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Five Guys Burgers and Fries
1155 Saint Louis Galleria, Richmond Heights, MO -
Nordstrom
1155 Saint Louis Galleria, Richmond Heights, MO -
Schnucks Markets
8800 Manchester Rd, Brentwood, MO -
PetSmart
62 Brentwood Promenade Ct, Saint Louis, MO -
Golf Galaxy
90 Brentwood Promenade Ct, Brentwood, MO -
Saint Louis Bread Co
1909 S Brentwood Blvd, Saint Louis, MO -
Target
25 Brentwood Promenade Ct, Brentwood, MO -
Trader Joe's
48 Brentwood Promenade Ct, Brentwood, MO -
Walmart Supercenter
1900 Maplewood Commons Dr, Maplewood, MO -
Whole Foods
1601 S Brentwood Blvd, Brentwood, MO -
Cost Plus World Market
24 Brentwood Promenade Ct, Brentwood, MO -
RDBet
10:48 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
The width of the Promenade parking spaces are fine, it is the width of the lanes to turn into the spots that are too narrow. Witnesseth the SUV people talking on cell phones attempting to turn into spots, it typically takes them at least two cuts at it, while other vehicles and cart pushers wait.
Another factor is there isn't much room to push a shopping cart to one's vehicle. Hence, you have people with carts in the lanes having to play chicken with vehicles. People with kids along really have to watch it. The proliferation of drivers and pedestrians on cell phones does not help either.
As I mentioned in the other thread, I don't think the retail/developers fret over this issue. They are aware that this busy-ness has a mass appeal to the competitive-shopper-types that are drawn to the challenge to fulfill their hunter-gatherer instincts.