City Council Votes to Ban "Open Carry" After Gun Incident

Carrying an unconcealed gun in Maplewood is currently legal.

A gun scare earlier this month led the Maplewood City Council to vote to ban carrying unconcealed firearms in public during a meeting on Tuesday night.

On March 12, a man wearing a loaded pistol on his hip walked through , said Steve Kruse, chief of the . Shoppers alerted Walmart workers, who called 911, Kruse said.

Police escorted the man outside and stripped him of his weapon after he refused to tell them his name, Kruse said. Once police identified who he was, officers found he was wanted for an outstanding traffic warrant and arrested him, he said.

Carrying an unconcealed gun—a practice often referred to as "open carry"—is legal* in Missouri unless its outlawed by local ordinances. City Council voted to pass such an ordinance that would ban open carry, but it will require a final vote during the April 12 meeting.

Maplewood police officers who are off duty aren't even allowed to carry guns in the open, Kruse said. It's against city policy.

KTVI-2 FOX reported on Monday that the armed man, Brett Darrow, told cellmates he could have shot the arresting police officers:

"Darrow wouldn't say much about the episode by phone so Fox 2 requested video and audio from the Richmond Heights jail where he was booked. You can hear Darrow say, 'There was like four of them walking right up. He said buddy come here. I could've f***ing shot him whatever.'"

Each council member voted to ban the practice except Third Ward Councilman Shawn Faulkingham, who was the lone dissenter, and Second Ward Councilman Tim Dunn, who was absent from the meeting.

“We’re reacting too quickly,” Faulkingham said.

*Correction: An earlier version of this article incorrectly outlined requirements for carrying an unconcealed firearm in Missouri. Maplewood-Brentwood Patch is sorry for the error.

Brett Darrow March 28, 2011 at 08:36 PM
Oh yeah, lets also not forget about the 2005 incident where a drunk off-duty cop attacked me and put a gun to my head nearly shooting me in a parking lot as I went to call the police on his drunk friend (found out later) who almost hit me with his car. I fought for my life and was lucky to get away. I was charged (because the cops are never wrong right?) and the grand jury dismissed the charges stating they didn't have probable cause to go to trial because I acted in self-defense. My comments were nice considering I had just been arrested illegal (warrant was bad and I had not committed any violations of the law) and since I've been dealing with police that don't know the law and think they are gods for years. Not all of my encounters have been bad however. I have had good dealings with Shrewsbury officers and Jefferson County. Other good dealings include City police officers and Webster Groves. -Brett Darrow
Rick March 28, 2011 at 09:14 PM
Wow, what a big fuss --- it's interesting to see the folks that let emotion rule their thinking --- like Matthew Hudson --- act first, think later if he can even think at all --- his post spewing sensless garbage about Ralph's post clearly illustrates an appaling lack of self control AND THIS IDIOT IS CARRYIG A GUN!!! I would be surprised to learn that Hudson knows Ralph well enough (if in fact he knows him at all) to be qualified to make those inflamitory statements. I support concealed carry by mentally stable people who can excersise reasonable control over their emotions, but this jerk Hudson frightens me to death! Dumb is dangerous and Hudson is this Month's poster child for Dumb Clucks. It's a pity, but you can't fix stupid.
Pat Riot March 28, 2011 at 09:53 PM
Rick, with all due rspect, all he did was say he didn't want to talk to Ralph anymore. Why are you getting so angry? Good Lord, calm down before you pop. And really, there is no reason to be calling him names, or anyone else on this forum.
Pat Riot March 28, 2011 at 09:56 PM
Hello Mr. Darrow. I've been stopped while armed in the past, and found that the stop can vary drastically from officer to officer. In one stop, I was simply asked to put my firearm on the dash of my car, while in another I was warned that if I made a move toward my gun I would be shot but allowed to keep my gun holstered. So I understand. Are you going to go after the Wal-Mart for calling the police?
Pat Riot March 28, 2011 at 10:02 PM
Hello Rick. Yes, you can say what you wish. But you did not support Ralph's post, you simply attacked a poster, called him names, and challenged his intelligence on a post and reply that did not involve you to start with.
Pat Riot March 28, 2011 at 10:16 PM
Mr. Darrow, it looks like you have your work cut out for you. But may I offer some advice? Try honey not vinegar. I am in full support of standing up for your rights, and am not saying not to... just take a little less confrontational approach. That said, I've gone after police officers in the past myself for excesses, and I've won some, lost some. One police department has basically said that I am no longer welcome in their town after I reported them assaulting a teenager they didn't like. And one incident resulted in the police department saying "We don't take complaints against our officers, it's time for you to leave." Take a look at the open carry videos on You tube, I think there is a guy names Keen that likes top push the buttons, but it is very entertaining to watch.
Brett Darrow March 28, 2011 at 10:59 PM
I've tried that. I had recorded an incident where someone fought a police officer and another one that showed up. Of course, a bunch of police showed up and so did the ambulance because the guy was maced and probably hurt from the fight. I was going to send the video footage to the commander, but then they pulled this stunt... In the video below, you will see some cops notice me and decide to stand there and shine their lights and spot light into my face. Any valid reason for that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqXom_cC8AA
Pat Riot March 29, 2011 at 12:23 AM
Mr. Darrow, after watching the Youtube videos, I withdraw my objections. I'll replace them by saying this... I would not carry. They are looking for a reason to hurt you, and you might give them the reason they need by trying to defend yourself. You need to be talking to the FBI, like, as of yesterday.
Marc Perez March 29, 2011 at 01:19 AM
I agree Pat, he should talk to the FBI, I happen to know one of the regional FBI agents who handles these things, he is very fair and objective! No one deserves to be hasseled when they are breaking no laws, they sure do not need to be locked up. I agree the statements made in the cell were poor choices of words, bu these came after he was locked up when he should not have been in the first place. The public needs to understand people have a right to exeercise their constitutional rights. Maplewood has an opportunity to show the 125,000+ permit holders in the state of Missouri that Maplewood recognizes their rights. Maplewood has this choice or the choice of being identified as a not friendly to the 2nd amendment of the Bill of rights and Constitution of the State of Missouri. There are many web discussion sites that are getting a lot of chatter over this, the final vote will be interesting to say the least. I hope the City Council will listen to the public "We support our 2nd amendment rights"!
Brett Darrow March 29, 2011 at 01:36 AM
Pat- I actually have contacted the FBI. The response I got was this... They are busy with terrorism issue now since 9/11...
Pat Riot March 29, 2011 at 05:35 AM
Sounds like it's time for some lawsuits. Terroristic threatening? Harassment under the color of law? Since Wal-Mart's policy is guns are allowed, and an employee called the police because you were armed, they clearly violated the store policy - that sounds like a good avenue to attack, right there. Remember, as long as police are acting in their official capacity, they cannot be sued. But if they act out of their capacity (threatening a person) they can be. Also, the department if it allows this kind of thing to continue is liable and can be attacked in court. What I'm saying is that although you have news coverage, it might be prudent to get some small judgments against the PD, and that will help you a LOT in the future if this continues. Also, a lawyer will love the change to jump on a case like this. Most PD's will settle smaller suits, so you might get a concession from them if you play your cards right.
Pat Riot March 29, 2011 at 03:03 PM
Ward 2 Resident, hi. ... gun nuts, who walk around... so that the idiot... If you gun nuts ...doubt a paranoid whack like you... ...defending Mr. Darrow when it sounds like he's an idiot... I own several guns. I keep them ready just in case the Umbrella Corporation releases a bunch of zombie viruses... ...Most of us go to work everyday hoping to avoid interacting with criminals and not needing to use any weapons to defend ourselves.... ...motherless children who were left behind by a police officer lying in their grave for giving an idiot like you ... ...obsession against gun control... So, let me see if I understand you. Everyone that disagrees with you is an idiot, nut, paranoid, or asking for trouble. Did you ever think that sometimes people get targeted? That sometimes people work in bad neighborhoods? That sometimes people get killed or hurt for, well, no reason at all? I can see from your posts that you offer a lot of the Brady Campaign talking points, and a previous poster (who you also called an idiot) asked you if you were with the Brady Campaign and you didn't answer them. But the name calling, hostility, bravado while advocating cowardice, all are typical of that group. They managed to get a lot of people killed over the years, and they did it by disarming victims - just as you are advocating here.
Pat Riot March 29, 2011 at 03:23 PM
Ward, let me give you a little history on me. As a teenager I opposed a corrupt cop and won. I used common sense, and the legal system. I fought in Desert Storm. I went against the state and won five times over them doing something that was illegal, but had always been done. I got involved when I saw police attack and hurt a teenager and had to deal with hostility similar to Mr. Darrow's. I had a police officer disciplined when he raced through my area doing over 80 - he was late for work. I had another two officers disciplined when they were racing in police cars. I've worked to host a couple of open carry picnics to help the public/police understand open carry. I help the neighborhood watch and yes, we do walk on "patrol," sometimes and work closely with the police. I am working with a new program to raise public awareness of open carry and the responsibilities that it creates when you are armed... and how to work with police when they arrive to quickly assess who is the bad guy. My area has gone from a drug infested crack street with shootings (thanks to the laws that the Brady Campaign Sponsored) to a quiet neighborhood where kids play on the sidewalks and people are repairing their houses and cleaning their yards. So, sir, I do a LOT for my community and I never regret it Aside from attacking people who defend themselves and calling people idiots, what have YOU done lately? You can't avoid crime forever. Nothing changes unless good people get involved.
Pat Riot March 29, 2011 at 03:25 PM
So, lets try to get you to answer one more time. Are you a member of the Brady Campaign?
Pat Riot March 29, 2011 at 04:36 PM
So, let me get this right... You did not give your daughter a firearm and teach her to use it properly, and as a result she allowed a robber to get away with robbing her, then the same robber shot someone else just a few days later. And you don't feel even slightly like it was your fault? You owe the person that was shot an apology. As for being a part of the NRA, I seriously doubt that. Every statement, every comment, has proven to me that not only are you not NRA, but are Brady Campaign. Perhaps not in deed, but most assuredly in word.
Pat Riot March 29, 2011 at 06:13 PM
... gun nuts, who walk around... so that the idiot... If you gun nuts ...doubt a paranoid whack like you... ...defending Mr. Darrow when it sounds like he's an idiot... I own several guns. I keep them ready just in case the Umbrella Corporation releases a bunch of zombie viruses... ...Most of us go to work everyday hoping to avoid interacting with criminals and not needing to use any weapons to defend ourselves.... ...motherless children who were left behind by a police officer lying in their grave for giving an idiot like you ... ...obsession against gun control... ...reading comprehension problem..." ...idiot... ...the easy and abundant supply of firearms available to them... ...supporting an unbridled gun carrying culture... ...to further their obsession against gun control... So, Miss Brady Bunch, what did I misunderstand? There is a quote that I remember..."If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams This conversation is over.
Rick March 30, 2011 at 08:33 PM
Glad to see someone is watching the posts & emptying the trash --- posts like Pat Riot's buddy Hudson who posted some of the most offensive language I have ever seen on an internet post
Matthew Hudson March 31, 2011 at 01:36 AM
Rick, to my knowledge, I've never spoken to you. I've never made a profane comment to anyone in here, and the worst that it appears that I've done is to mistakenly reply to Ralph when I intended to reply to Ward2resident. Ralph's reply saw that he got it, and I was too busy with editing to reply. My comment to ward2resident was in reference to his continued use of foul (to me) language directed at me for no reason. I wrote, "Could you be just a little more insulting? So far you've said that people that carry are arrogant, braggarts, self centered, dangerous, short tempered, stupid, hostile and brainless. Did I miss any?" Then said that I could say the same to him if I were inclined to do so, but am not so inclined - explaining that both are rights (to carry and to speak) and both can be abused. I was neither hostile or angry with the post, just matter of fact. So I ask you, why do you attack me? What did I do to you? What language was it that you found so offensive? Or are you just looking to attack someone who openly carries a firearm to make yourself look good? Dude, seriously, everyone can scroll up and read my comments.
Matthew Hudson March 31, 2011 at 01:39 AM
Hi Ralph, sorry, I wasn't careful when I posted, and posted to the wrong comment. I intended to call ward2resident on his language and obvious hatred of firearms and their owners, and it got lost in the shuffle. Probably just as well, after seeing how badly ward2resident reacts to being opposed. I don't need that kind of argument in my life - so I was saying I was done with the conversation.
mac March 31, 2011 at 06:01 PM
I do hope the city council doesn't think that passing this ordinance will protect their police department from legal action. It will not apply to the man carrying in the Wal Mart. The U.S. Constitution protects citizens from ex post facto laws. You can't bust someone and then declare the offending conduct unlawful.
Tony Merkel April 13, 2011 at 01:48 PM
As a conceal and carry holder and firearm carrier. I will no longer do business in Maplewood due to fear of the police harassing me if my firearm were to accidentally show some how. I moved both of my doctors out of Maplewood yesterday and told them exactly why too. Enjoy your repressive MW Government and criminal friendly town.
Tony Merkel April 13, 2011 at 01:53 PM
Mac the sad part is they DO think this will protect themselves and the police. They are more afraid of the law abiding armed citizen that is no threat to anyone than they are of criminals. Criminals don't have permits to carry, Law abiding citizens do. Criminals don't openly carry in holsters with safety on, law abiding citizens do. Criminals don't obey those useless no firearms signs, law abiding citizens do. Criminals don't conceal with a holster,law abiding citizens do. Armed law abiding citizens are no danger to anyone, criminals ARE!
Marc Perez April 13, 2011 at 02:16 PM
The Mayor had a prepared speech, public input no matter what was said would have made no difference. Ok Maplewood, the 200,000 + CCW holders im Missouri now know what you think of 2nd amendment rights. Never to cross the city limits of Maplewood, no shopping, no recommendations. No RESPECT!
Matthew Hudson April 13, 2011 at 02:58 PM
"They are more afraid of the law abiding armed citizen " Of course they are. They can arrest a criminal but they have to tolerate you. Criminals, HATE people carrying a firearm, and now you know what side the city council is on.
Integr8er April 14, 2011 at 06:44 PM
Wow Brett Darrow, honered to speak to you, you have some stones, and I am very proud of you for doing what you do. BUTTTT be careful man I really think they will try to take you out. I have had instances just like yours, and was basically told by the Chesterfield that they don't take complaints about their officers if they issue you a citation, so it's simple, got a guy that has a complaint...just write him a ticket. Anyway For sure I will NOT be shopping traveling or doing any business in Maplewood. Again, good Work Brett!
Keith Keating April 17, 2011 at 03:19 PM
The biggest issue is it was not put to the voters, by the stoke of a pen they just took away ONE of your rights, not just Mr. Darrow's but all of your's right to open carry. You might not now want to open carry, but you could change your mind and decide to later in life, but now you can't, not even on your own property outside of your house and you LET them do it. Just because a FEW (MINORITY) fearful people that watch too much TV. What else are you going to LET the (MINORITY) do!! Your local (MINORITY) Govt., just wiped the **** on their shoes on to YOU. People that don't STAND for their rights, STAND TO LOOSE THEM.
Marc Perez April 17, 2011 at 03:37 PM
What needs to happen is the people of maplewood need to go before "THEIR" City Council and the not so honorable gun toting Mayor and say "We want our second amendment rights back that you took away from us." The people of maplewood have the numbers, the voters and power to have their local government serve their wants, their needs. Even though there was just one person with a not very specific statement who gave the slightest notion of this is what the people want. DO YOU LIVE IN MAPLEWOOD? do you believe in the bill of rights, the constitution of the United States of America. Go to your City Council, public session and tell them what you think! They don;t listen to people fromoutside the City, let's see if they listen to you.
TP April 18, 2011 at 12:30 AM
Since this strand is still going strong 3 1/2 weeks after the original article posters seem so adamant to tell the people of MAPLEWOOD what we need to do & how we need to act & how we need to feel, I'll stick my neck out here again AS A CITIZEN OF MAPLEWOOD & tell you what I want, what I feel & what I plan to do. As someone who LIVES here, THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL! I do not feel just anyone needs to carry a gun though my home & Maplewood is that - my home. If you feel a need to carry a gun when you come to visit, please get a permit to do so & then come on over--we'll party. Until then, please don't smoke in my house , put your shoes on my furniture, or pack heat in my Wal-Mart. I hope some of my neighbors who ACTUALLY LIVE HERE will also share their thoughts as residents. It's really easy for outsiders to tell us how to live & then go home. We are the ones living here, paying taxes & raising our families. Yes, I live in Maplewood & I do believe in the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, & Liberty & Justice for all. However, America has changed a lot since our founding fathers penned the whole "We the People" statements (Thankfully). In those days, I wouldn't have even been allowed to vote on any of it as I didn't obtain that right until the Representation of the People Act of 1928 when women were granted the right to vote on the same terms as men! For those of us that live here, this isn't just some online soapbox. It is our HOME.
Matthew Hudson April 18, 2011 at 02:00 AM
This thread has gone on so long because it is not about guns, but about you seeing guns. That person with the openly holstered firearm standing in line in front of you will still be standing in front of you now - only a millimeter of fabric will be between that gun - and your eyes. The city council has made this a first amendment issue, not a second amendment issue. The gun owner is saying "I have the right to make a statement - to express myself. You are saying, "Shut up! No, you don't." But have you considered that it is the same issue that women faced in the 1900's? That women said, "I have a right to make a statement - to vote! And men said, "Be Silent! No, You don't." As for the rest, you can control what happens in your house. If you want someone to hide his gun there, then that is your right - just as it is his to leave. But Wal-Mart is not yours. It belongs to Wal-Mart and THEY have said that they honor open carry. So not only are you telling me that your desire to not see a gun trumps my right to self defense, you are also saying that Wal-Mart has to follow your desire to not see guns over their store policy. Then you approached a bunch of politicians, and said, Stomp on their rights! I'm offended!" What is really sad is that they were not strong enough to honor the Constitution, but bowed to the whims of a few arrogant self-righteous cowards who would legislate away the rights of many, for the misbegotten sensibilities of a scant few.
mormit April 18, 2011 at 05:42 AM
Well I agree Matt Hudson that it is just fabric but I would also like people to wear pants because I don't wan't to see their their hairy cracks. Some things just do not need to be out in public. Displaying a weapon is hostile. I could rant on about my free speach right to run the street with both middle fingers up. I'm not gonna do that because I would be a jerk for doing so. Get a CCW for your legal piece and I have no problem. That is what I voted for.


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