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Group Home For Teens Wants to Build on Madge, Neighbors Come to Meeting with Questions, Worries

Boys Hope Girls Hope had its first interaction with Brentwood residents at an informational meeting Monday.

Boys Hope Girls Hope, a national organization that gives "academically capable and motivated children-in-need" a home to live in while they go to middle or high school, wants to build in Brentwood.

The proposed site for the two group homes (one for boys and one for girls) and an office is on two lots on Madge Avenue, a residential street in Brentwood.

The group held an informational meeting at St. Mary Magdalen Church Monday night and about 60 residents came.

Brentwood Planning and Zoning chairman John Geppert was there, but said that doesn’t mean the city or board of aldermen supports the house–he was only there to answer questions. He said nothing has been filed with the city yet.

After the group’s director, Brian Hipps, gave an introduction, the questions began. Most centered around having a total of 20 boys and girls living on the street, and parking and traffic.

A Madge Avenue resident worried about traffic. “The other homes don’t have 20 kids, they have six or seven,” she said. Boys Hope Girls Hope currently has homes in Kirkwood and Town and Country.

The project’s architect, Peter Schwartz, said the city would require 16 off-street parking spaces. He also said the proposed project would take up two lots. The one next to the Pasta House is zoned planned development. The group already owns that one. The one to the west of that one is currently zoned residential, and the group is talking with the owner about buying it.

It’s not yet determined if the students can go to Brentwood schools. Hipps is scheduled to talk to the school board on April 16. He said it’s the board’s decision if hardship waivers are provided, which would allow the teenagers in the house to attend Brentwood schools.

Another resident asked if the kids would be wandering around, and said she was uncomfortable about their troubled background.

Hipps answered that the staff are trained professionals, and after their young people get to know each other, they treat each other as siblings, not boyfriends and girlfriends. That statement was met with skepticism.

Hipps also said in the 13 years he’s been with the group there hasn’t been one criminal allegation. He said the state requires a 1-12 ratio of supervision to students, and the home would always be higher than that.

Resident, Fred Rauch, said, “I originally was pissed off, I thought we were going to get some juvenile delinquent company coming in.” He went to businesses in the area to let them know, then he visited the group’s Kirkwood location.

“It is beautiful,” he said. “I was wrong in my assessment, so after I went and saw this place, I called all those people back up and said I was wrong.”

Christine Lewis said after the meeting it’s an opportunity to make a difference.

“I’m not one bit afraid of these teenagers that are coming into our neighborhood,” she said. “I wish I lived where they’re going to do it. (She lives in Brentwood but not on Madge Avenue.) I think that would be awesome to be their neighbor.”

Read previous artilces on Boys Hope Girls Hope plans in Brentwood:

  • Group Home for 20 Teenagers on Madge Avenue?
  • Director of Group Home Wanting to Move to Madge Avenue: "Our Kids Are Hand-Picked"

 

TOOWARM March 21, 2013 at 01:46 pm
I wonder if this will be a tax exempt development. A cash strapped district accepting more students with no income to school. Sounds like a future prop k in the works...
Rachelle Holt March 21, 2013 at 03:03 pm
Joe's Place is a residential home in a residential neighborhood. Joe's Place provides housing to teenage boys who attend the MRH schools and find themselves homeless. Almost all of these boys have troubled families, yet Joe's Place has not caused any problems within the neighborhood. The kids walk up and down the street every day to and from school and school related activities, and people are not selling their homes. My husband and I should know; we live only two blocks east of Joe's Place and we walk our dog past the home without fear. Joe's Place has received national recognition. The impact on the boys served at this family type home has been profound. This type of community compassion and service is now being requested of the Brentwood community. Please don't fear these teenagers. We didn't in Maplewood, and we hope to open a Jane's Place in the future. An organization that is well run will provide all of the services and monitoring to the kids that are necessary so that they do not cause problems in the neighborhood. These group homes have to potential to help so many teenagers. I do hope that you will approve the proposals.
Christine March 21, 2013 at 09:09 pm
This is a wonderful organization and an amazing opportunity for Brentwood residents to make a positive difference in the lives of those less fortunate. Of course, the unknown can be scary. That's why I encourage those residents with concerns or questions, to learn more about the organization while keeping an open mind. Brian Hipp would be more than willing to visit as well as give you a tour of the other 2 homes in St. Louis, one in Town and Country and the other in Kirkwood. These are not "troubled teens". These are GOOD kids, chosen because of their high motivation to succeed in life and make a positive difference in the world. The screening process is intense. The homes are very structured with set times for family dinner as well as homework. The teens are extremely busy, involved in many activities including opportunities to give back to the community. One Kirkwood resident told the residents of Brentwood, "If you give these kids a chance, they will win your hearts!" As a Brentwood resident, I think we are lucky to have this opportunity, to come together and make a difference in the lives of these kids!
susan forman March 22, 2013 at 02:22 am
This is not something new...other cities such as Town and Country, Ladue and Clayton are hosting homes for these students. Is Brentwood above this? Our motto is "CIty of Warmth". I would like to think that we are more than just words. We ARE midtown community in a large city....and i would hope to have some forward thinking that goes along with this. The CHILDREN in the program are motivated...and more supervised than ALOT of kids in our neigborhoods. They deserve a chance and people that welcome them .and support them...
Daphne Madras March 22, 2013 at 02:29 am
Actually, from my understanding, (because this was my question when I was at the meeting) is that the kids are considered hardships and the district will receive some money. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that is what would happen. And I hope the community can welcome them here. I live a block over and would love having them in my neighborhood. I have more issues with the teenagers that are already here, then I believe I would with them. I saw firsthand how some people treat others that aren't from here. Brentwood needs to learn about others. I think the diversity and a helping hand will make this a better community. I think an organization like boyshopegirlshope can maybe teach people a few things about others.

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